Lost November account value since July subscription.

absolutely terrible. please stay away from this and anything else kevin does. completely blew a 10k account in a matter of days .

Poor management and scammer. Kevin scammed everyone out of money. He never communicated or responded to our questions. When we asked for a refund, he declined the request and never responded.

I am only seeing loss more than 85% of time. I don't think it worth spending money on this strategy.

The huge drawdowns cause account to become below broker PDT requirements. You have to deposit more money to keep trading. And then you just lose more money. I do not know how the profit numbers are calculated as shown on C2., I lots 80 % of my investment in 12 months, I kept thinking it would get better but it did not. I had to close my account due to the huge losses.

Looking forward to some solid returns, based on this team's track record with their original strategy "LUCIDMNQ".

Recent developments made me stop this strategy. The scaling was different on my account, and the max draw down was over 10%. Also keep in mind that the "all time change" is not a real number, you have to deduct transaction costs and the costs to follow this strategy. All in all for me not a profitable strategy as a follower

Not getting results showed by C2. The position sizing seems to be critical to mirror 100% as the strategy seems to change in approach week to week, entering and exiting various size positions in sequence. So, it's challenging to figure out how to mirror w/ partial positioning. Even at currently 2/3, I'm not able to duplicate the results.

Not for the faint of heart, unless you don't watch.,

That being said, from what I see, they have a valid strategy and seem to execute with strict discipline. It is the only strategy I am deploying currently....

from last few weeks he is doing over trading and taking revenge trades also..

Seems that he only knows how to play this on a bull market, i have two years on this strategy and just lost money, a lot.

Bad planning since start . Loosing money.

This manager totally lost it today. Usually does 1 and 3 lots resulting in small losses or gains. All of the sudden, lost discipline and started firing off 10 lots of mnq and then a 3 lot of nq resulting in over 4000. of losses in less than 2 hours. Don't touch this.

Bad trader. Amazon has huge beat. Market and qqq are green bullish. Tries to short multiple times with overleveraging. No tight stops in place. Huge loss. Already lost c2 star certificate. Avoid.

Pathetic. False assurances. Has no trading discipline and no stop losses. Makes the same mistakes again and again.....

Overall a good strategy

Really impressed with your track record and consistency.

Love the Strategy Manager’s willingness to communicate with us. Love that his picks are making me money in up and down markets.

No changes for the last 3 months. This strategy seems to just portfolio at the same amount while they take your subscription money every month.

Unfortunately terrible performance. It goes down every month from the time I start the subscription. Over 50% loss within two months while other managers profit greatly. It is not recommended based on my experience.

Some gains. Some risk. Overall up, but could have made money on smaller trades, rather than holding for days.

working good so far.

I believe in this strategy and that's the reason I have subscribed, but so far I am not in profit and hence 2 less stars at this point.

Stay away from this strategy, No discipline trading from strategy Manager

Trust the system

Great trader. I prefer escalper only version. Within 2 weeks recovered back gains. Many trades are day trades that win and drawdown is minimal , but the few daytrades that end up as swings with more drawdown almost always win. Trade accuracy is phenomenal and is very important to be profitable long term. Don’t listen to negative reviews, this system is definitely one of the best on C2, and I see long term success with it. It does use stop losses, but you need to stick it through, it’s almost 100% win rate but there are very few losers.

cc

What an absolute joke! "Catastrophic failure" after "catastrophic failure". This guy has no business managing money, I suppose that's why he's here on C2 and not somewhere more serious. Look carefully at the logs and the epic drawdown you have to go through. Just learn a simple scalping strategy and you can do a lot better than this with the amount of money while keeping your hair color and sanity! It's scary having this guy control your account if you value money at all.

I think this guy is an algo trader because he has no trading skill otherwise. Wins averaging $250 with drawdown $2000+ and max losses 5 figures.... Yep, this system will go into $20k+ drawdown to try to make $500. There are a million better ways to make a buck. Absolutely unreal. Another new system down the C2 drain.

Going strong. I've been in for 8 months.

The trader once lost his C2 star status than go wild and crazy against all rules and risk control trying to recover in one day thus resulting 50% equity drown down.
Without rule and stop, it's just gambling! Stay away from this kind of toxic trading!

This guy could make so much money if he would get his head out of his a** and stop going in right before a big drop. He literally messaged us saying it was about to drop and then buys 30,000 worth of SVIX that drops almost 6k in 2 days lmao.

One Stock Stragegy .. Not much going on..

awesome strategy

One of the best traders on C2. Stats are in the best category. It’s been very hard work to determine actual good profitable long term strategies since there are unfortunately so many crash and burn fakes on C2 who use martingale and add to loser baghold methods. But this trader is legitimately excellent and understands trading with trends very well. Has performed well over a year and focuses on consistent wins that are substantial in size. Not many tiny wins that eventually are wiped out when that big loss comes seem from other traders strategies. Leveraged ETF trading is highly recommended!

I signed up right before the market started turning south a few weeks ago. It did not take me long though to realize that his strategy is to “catch a falling knife”. But he does have a good track record when you look at the equity chart. I think it will work in the long run, if you don’t mind a few thousand dollars of drawdown. For me, it was too agonizing to watch, so I bailed.

This guy is utterly reckless. I guess you can be when not trading with actual money. Stay clear, run away.

***STAY AWAY***
One of the worst "strategies" I've ever used if you'd like to call it one. There was no strategy. Strategy leader had zero communication skills so don't be surprised to never have your questions answered. Lost thousands of dollars in a short amount of time. Has zero stop losses so be ready for your losses to accumulate day by day. I would highly suggest you skip any strategy he does, including this and Eliran Strategy and his others. He doesn't care about your money and will just use it to get your monthly fee to him. Not even sure how C2 even approved him. 0 stars.

I wouldn't recommend this strategy to anyone, despite the profits from January to Juli 2023.
The problem is that the trader doesn't take losses when it is necessary and possible.
For Example: On August 1st the trader opened a trade, but didn't take the small profit.
Instead the trader waited and let the trade run into a small loss, but still didnt' take the small loss.
Now, MORE THAN TWO WEEKS LATER were are STILL "invested" in those same bad trades of August 1st, still hoping that maybe there will be a turnaround because apparently this happened historically in the past. But instead now we at huge loss of about 9000$, just because the trader didn't accept a mistake and therefore didn't take a small loss when it was possible.
Forget the "managed downside risk" that you see in the strategy description. Fact is that there is a win-rate of almost 90%, meaning that you will have many small profits around 300$-500$, but also huge drawdons of about 9000$. To me this is reckless trading with very bad money & risk-management.
I disagree with the first two reviewers. Stay away from this strategy.

This guy is dangerous. He has no idea what a stop is when he is in and it is going against him. Yet he continues to put out these feel good emails telling you how good he is doing. I have seen nothing but losses that are out of control.

my humble suggestion is to keep some stop-loss when you are taking these shorts positions overnight. It's better to take small losses and move on. You can recover from small losses when the time is right.

In the past 2 months, you kept the shorts for way too long and have experienced significant drawdown. It's extremely painful for your subscribers and they won't be able to stomach the drawdown again. Just my humble suggestion. Remember again "smaller losses are better than huge drawdown"

I do not feel comfortable with this company as they are hard to reach and do not communicate

Nice and steady with limiting the losses not too risky (till now)

I tried this one as an early adopter after success on NQ strategies with this manager, but ultimately decided this one isn't ready yet. I may revisit later, but the losses are too high on this one for now and they do not outweigh losses.

Strategy manager appears to just keep buying shorts as price increases hoping eventually market will come down. Works most times til it doesn't but when it doesn't, loses money big time. It appears strategy manager then, based on past history, shuts down strategy and recreates a new one under a new name while utilizing same technique until that one loses bunches of money as well all the while collecting monthly fees.

Tests your patience on days with failed breakouts, yes, but tested my patience overall because other algo strategies I deploy both on and off C2 are more consistent and have higher returns overall, even if they don't capture the big moves. Best for a smaller piece of a portfolio and not as the meat of a portfolio IMHO. Does make some great money in running markets if you're super patient and have an account that can take a lot of drawdown while waiting for a larger move.

All going well 5 moths in, good steady gains

No stop losses, 50k gone

This was my first month of subscription, received a shocker of ES trade that lost $18K.
However, strategy seems to be good as I am seeing multiple trades with consistent small gains. Looking forward for a faster recovery.
Yet to see the Profits from trading in this strategy.

Terrible. No communication. Lost 15k in 2 weeks.

Here is the performance by week. Total loss Until now 48%. Long way to go before getting to breakeven. They believe it is only a few months away but, with how it is going, it will take years to reach the promised profitability based on actual performance. They keep changing strategies which is showing some positive results in the last 5 weeks. Hoping they improve on this.
Here is the weekly profit from inception that I have tracked.
$2,067
$(1,635)
$(1,788)
$555
$1,407
$(657)
$(3,031)
$338
$133
$(17,004)
$1,201
$(1,045)
$(6,191)
$(1,542)
$-
$(4,240)
$(272)
$(2,186)
$(360)
$957
$582
$327
$721
$47

Volume of trading is low. Not sure at this rate, we will meet the ROI of the investment.

Pros: Easy to scale since the manager bases their position sizing on account size and you can do the same, has a great track record. Cons: Doesn't trade often & you need decent position sizing to account for the sub fee as a result.

So far superb. I have an eye on the developers other strategies as well, and am overall super impressed with most of them. I'm auto trading at 50% and I wish there was a way to pick which of the contracts to follow (one contract stays in longer).

Not a good choice!!

I've been subbed for about 6 months, not every move is a winner, but I'm up 25%. With the right amount allocated, that's a profit given the sub fee and collective's fee. I may up my allocation into it, but I'm still shaky risking more money on it.

The principal understands risk management and is very disciplined in their trading.

A strategy that fights as hard to save your investment as it does to grow it. In this economic environment--priceless.

Good strategy and execution for quick wins.

Awful trader. Bagholds short trades in a bull market for tiny wins. Eventually luck runs out and loses everything. Very deceiving statistics.

Deceptive stats. Looks like an amazing strategy but actually is a terrible trader who got lucky bagholding and averaging down trades. Lost a great deal of money by not understanding how deceptive some stats can be. Has no concept of stop loss. Be prepared to lose your whole account. Stay away!

Was going great until they ghosted... is over leveraged, I gave it more room than suggested.

When the strategy owner says "It'll test your patience & payoff in the long run", that's accurate. One of my favorite also strategy managers so of course I have the big kahuna. It needs a lot of funds to run, I run another strategy from the same manger in a smaller account that is more small account friendly. Perfect for an account you don't actively watch like a hawk.

This one has been my consistent little star until it wasn't. There seems to be a great deal of maneuvering to keep the ridiculously high win-rate. Not quite a martingale, but will add/close to change the cost basis going into heavy drawdown for days and days to avoid taking a simple loss & moving on back into profitable little trades. Insanely high win rate even if you count these trades as losses so it seems it could be improved with some different management. I like that it can run on smaller accounts, but it does need all the room suggested for the thousands in drawdown and having those funds tied up for days.

Total lack of risk management. Over $30k lost on a single trade.

Strategy has clearly imploded in June 2023 costing me $50K in losses. In process of ending strategy.

Irresponsible manager. Does not respond messages. He just messed up big time. Does not stop losses, high percentage of winning trades, stay away!!!! He will blow the account

This Strategy Manager started off decent but as you can see by the progress over the last few months, it has changed dramatically. The strategy changes all the time and you have no idea what they are doing or why. Decent fills but terrible at taking profit when you think you should especially after coming out of the red. Opens contracts when its already the lows or the very highs. Not a good strategy to make any money. If you look at the performance it's been break even at BEST since last september 2022. The biggest con of this strategy is communication. Good luck trying to get any answers back after weeks or asking or messages. If i'm paying for a service and putting money in your pocket, I expect communication back at the bare minimum. If you don't want to communicate you shouldn't be running your own strategy. I think this strategy leader gave up and is just trying to milk money from this website now. 0 stars. DO NOT FOLLOW.

Disheartened after so much promise. Learned my lesson!

Awful risk management. Takes small winners and let"s losers run. Poor

The volume of trades is too low. Returns does not justify the costs of subscriptions for strategy manager and C2.
Needs to be more aggressive.

It would be good if the analyst could explain the strategy. Also, give brief introduction of the analyst whom we are following.

I guess you just have to admit that "power of the system". Sometimes the entry and stop loss may let you feel not comfortable or stupid but system eventually prove itself in the long run.

Nice strategy. Responsible SM. Cuts losses quick

Too erratic and no sense of stop loss

initially the strategy was good, slowly I feel like the strategy manager is not taking trades properly and making us lose money

So far, after 5 months, seems super solid. Up roughly 10%.

SteadyReturns has lived up to name of this strategy so far. The trades are not usually daily which is conservative on rocky market days. As such, you may need to increase the leverage to 200% in order to be able to gain/earn total monthly profits to clear your Collective monthly fee and the SteadyReturns monthly cost. It has to be worth the risk auto trading this strategy. I'm pleased with the results and equity curve.

IMHO, this strategy is overhyped. The drawdown to profit ratio is downright frightening. No stop losses, more throw on a trade before news & wait for recovery if wrong style strategy. It's not for everyone. If you prefer traders who wait for the best entries and make money getting great entries, this is not for you. Best if you do not monitor the account at all as drawdowns are downright shocking when compared to profits. For the bang for the buck, I've done much better with other strategies. I can add 4-6 quality strategies for the price of this one and have a better return. I will continue watching for improvement, but don't trust my funds with this strategy right now.

Great value strategy to get started with smaller accounts. As I use C2 longer, I find that I personally prefer focused strategies so I spread my exposure to more strategies, but this is a good one for a mixed bag of futures for one reasonable fee.

The manager takes a lot of pride in his trading and cares about doing well for subscribers which means a lot in this industry. Does have drawdowns, but turns a profit consistently over time. I took this strategy for CL exposure and have been very pleased. I started out limiting contracts to about half the strategy and while it was profitable, I suggest allowing full size. Be sure you are properly funded to take advantage of the full strategy. Looking forward to making more money together!

It's slower so if you're scaled down, it feels extra slow, but is fairly consistent over time. Personally, I prefer more aggressive strategies and was attracted to this one to balance those out a bit.

Very good Strategy and good trades..

Awesome trader.

Excellent trader. Knows how to trade well and be consistently profitable.

It's okay. Very slow so harder to make up the sub cost. I may have joined at the wrong time, but did not produce for me. Seems like an interesting strategy for someone who wants a variety of strategies and has more patience.

Only subscribe if you don't mind losing 100% of your hard earned money on a martingale strategy - https://forums.collective2.com/t/strategy-risk-not-apparent-based-on-readily-available-data/16108/16

Only subscribe if you don't mind losing 100% of your hard earned money on a martingale strategy - https://forums.collective2.com/t/strategy-risk-not-apparent-based-on-readily-available-data/16108/16

Only subscribe if you don't mind losing 100% of your hard earned money on a martingale strategy - https://forums.collective2.com/t/strategy-risk-not-apparent-based-on-readily-available-data/16108/16

not taking trades as much as I expected

Absolutely not. I can blindly pick better than this strategy and they raised the monthly price! Lost 4K in 5 months. All talk no action.

Early days but happy with steady gains although only trade long so need to look alt short strategy also. TQQQ strategy can be scaled and adjusted accurately because its not futures but stock numbers can be fine tuned. This instrument is very liquid and not too volatile which limits violent swing which can result in losses.
Happy to recommend.

DONT FALL IN THIS TRAP !! ITS A TRAP !! HE WILL BLOW ALL YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY

He showed big profits before starting this auto trade and all subscribers fall in his trap. Now all his strategies are gone except Forex, that too in loss from last month.

Also I have subscribed for Options Trading and he hardly traded Options here. Committed that it will play 50% stop loss but hold trades even market is going other direction and din't closed.

It was biggest mistake to trust this guy and result is our portfolio is almost 0

good strategy for forex

Lost all the money invested in the strategy. It took just 3 months to completely burn out the whole portfolio.

Trash

100% Drawdown

I didn't realize that this manager has many other failed systems, many on abandoned accounts. That's not cool.

Do we have a negative star to provide for this strategy .No risk management

Strategy is performing as expected in both its description and its history. Nice to see! Thanks strategy manager!!!